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Knock-knock! It's the Food Police

Knock-knock! It's the Food Police

Tue, 04/08/2008 - 3:26am by thorswitch
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Earlier this week, CitizenSugar posted an article entitled "Fatism is the new racism? Do we need need a law against it?" Several people responded from both sides of the issue, and there was some really good discussion taking place. One thing that I, being a fat person, appreciated is that while there was some of the usual "Fatties would be just fine if they'd stop stuffing their faces and get their fat asses off the couch" comments, they were balanced out by posters who either understood that the situation isn't anywhere near that simple or found themselves feeling more compassionate about the situation after reading the stories about what some of us who are fat have gone through.

I've mentioned this statistic a few times already, but it tends to bear repeating - and in this case, its important to understand because it has a great deal of relevance to the comments below. There have been a great number of studies done on the viability of intentional attempts at losing weight. They "intentional" is included to differentiate people who are wanting to lose weight from those who lose weight from sickness or other such factors. These studies have consistently shows than 95% to 98% of the time, when someone attempts to lose weight intentionally, they will fail to lose as much weight as they intended and/or even if they *are* successful in reaching their goal, they will regain all of the lost weight - generally with more added - within 5 years. This takes into account all types of diets, diets-and-exercise programs, weight loss surgery, weight-loss maintenance programs for people who have met their goal, and any other methods people use to try and lose weight intentionally. Only 2% to 5% of the people who try to intentionally lose weight will reach their goal and keep it off for 5 years or more.

Statistics also show that people who repeatedly diet and regain the weight they lose or end up even heavier than they were when they started, are much more likely to suffer a shorter life-span than people who are fat but do not repeatedly dieting. The "yo-yo" dieting syndrome is harder on the body than just being fat is.

Think about that for a moment. Imagine that you had an illness, and the doctor came in and told you that they only had one treatment option, but that it's only effective 5% of the time, and each time the treatment fails, there's a very strong chance it will make your illness worse not to mention that using the treatment repeatedly, hoping that *this* time it'll work, increases the chance that you'll have a shorter lifespan. Just how eager would YOU be to try and treatment time after time? And how would you feel if people kept trying to push you into using the treatment, or started discriminating against you because you've decided you're better off dealing with the illness itself than the risks of the treatment? That's the situation that we face.

A blog I frequent is Junkfood Science, run by Sandy Szwarc, RN, BSN, CCP. Her blog focuses on research and studies done about obesity, examines the way some studies can be distorted or "spun" when they're made public, researches who financed studies and what - if any - financial interest they might have in the outcome, and trends that can result from a misunderstanding of what some studies actually show. Prior to starting her own blog, she frequently posted at TCS Daily, which has a biography page about her, her background in both health and food, along with a list of publications she has written for. Her current blog is rated as the top health blog at Wikio, and she notes that her blog adheres to the Medblogger Code of Ethics. I'm telling you all this, because I want you to know that this is not some fly-by-night flake with a personal hang up or a wild conspiracy-theorists or anything else like that. Szwarc is a long time health and food professional, with a solid reputation.

It's this last aspect that she recently posted about in an article called House to House searches -- for twinkies and guns?. She begins by commenting on recent efforts in Boston and Washington DC to enact programs where the cops can go from door-to-door and search peoples' homes for guns as part of a "Safe Homes" program. The officers would not need warrants for these searches (though they may need to get the homeowner to sign an "informed consent" statement) and homeowners found to have illegal guns would be given amnesty from illegal-weapons charges. If the guns are tested and found to be tied to a crime, however, they homeowner could be investiged and charged with that (if appropriate) and it's unclear what happens if they find evidence of other crimes while doing the search.

Sandy then poses the question of what other kinds of things might authority figures be sent door-to-door to look for - and notes that it's not all that far-fetched to think that they might come and want to look at your pantry, since that's already happening in the US. Below is the portion of her post related to that issue - any emphasis is mine:

A knock on our door

What other reasons might public officials use to convince people to allow them to search their homes and private lives, and believe that such intrusions are for their own benefit? Might we get a knock at our doors asking to go through our pantries and refrigerators to make sure we’re eating the prescribed “healthy” diet; to assess our weights, exercise and smoking habits; and to monitor our compliance with health prescriptions and report us if we’re not being good? Incredibly, it is not a far-fetched idea that agencies might want to make such door-to-door searches in the name of public health — because they already have!

As part of the plans of Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt, “unfit and overweight Britons will get doorstep visits from NHS staff to track those at risk of future illness.” As the Observer reported, “staff could ask people in certain streets about their lifestyle — and invite those at risk for a health 'MoT' with their GP, after which they could sign agreements to lose weight or stop smoking...” Sec. Hewitt said the government had to start going to people and not wait for them to go to the doctor. She said those with “genetic inheritance” need especially intense interventions to “ditch bad habits.”

“At least two primary care trusts were already getting staff to knock on doors in streets they had identified as high risk for disease, often in low-income areas,” she said... The approach will be highly controversial, prompting charges of snooping on people's private lives and interfering in their freedom, the Observer reported.

Comparable programs have been suggested or already instituted here in the United States. Proposals were made by the California Department of Health for door-to-door searches of young Latina and African American women in low-income neighborhoods to assess their health risk behaviors, purportedly to tackle HIV and STDs.

A program funded by the National Cancer Institute, targeted 350,000 families of preschoolers in St. Louis, Missouri, who received a knock on the door asking them about their eating habits, going through their pantries and reviewing their grocery shopping lists. It was part of a “High 5 Low-Fat” program to address childhood obesity by telling parents how to feed their children “healthy” by cutting fat, getting fruits and vegetables, and reducing “bad dietary choices.”

A similar anti-obesity initiative was introduced last summer by Dr. Mehmet Oz, author of the You on a diet diet book and an Oprah regular. Funded by $250,000 from the New York City Council, the program he founded is called HealthCorps. Modeled after the Peace Corps, it pays college graduates to go around the city and council kids on diet and exercise.

Another initiative to fight obesity proposed by economists at Brookings Institution, called for establishing a “Retired Healthcare Professionals Corps.” Retired physicians and nurses would be mobilized into “cadres of community healthcare workers” to go door to door and to give residents information about common diseases and “monitor compliance with prescribed regimens, and communicate with healthcare providers about the needs and circumstances of neighborhood residents.”

Citing Robert Wood Johnson Foundation extensively: “My idea is to mobilize retired physicians and healthcare workers to serve their country by joining in a crusade to combat childhood obesity, especially in those communities and among the children where the problem is most acute.”

The authors said it was necessary to make “lifestyle medicine” a credentialed clinical specialty and part of basic medical training because of the “serious health threats confronting our nation” and that these Corps were necessary because primary doctors didn’t have time to do “the extensive counseling on nutrition, exercise, and lifestyle changes that is required to treat obesity.” They also noted that genomics will soon bring the ability to identify those at risk for chronic diseases and in need of intervention.

While the articles from which the examples were drawn talk about the programs being voluntary, there's still something unsettling about the prospect of someone coming to your door and saying they want to poke around in my kitchen and review my grocery lists to make sure I'm eating right (or that the children in the home are being fed properly.) We've already seen situations where parents have had - or were threatened with having - their children removed from their homes because they children were obese. Who's to say that these people coming into homes to check your pantry won't decide to call your local CPS if they think your kid is too fat?

In the article about the Brooking's Institute suggestion of using retired doctors to help monitor patient compliance, it also notes the following:

Finally, the federal government as well as insurers and employers are beginning to flex their muscle by prodding Medicaid patients and employees to take better care of their health. For example, the State of West Virginia plans to reward responsible patients with significant extra benefits and punish those who do not join weight loss programs where indicated. Medicaid recipients who sign and abide by the agreement with the state would be eligible to receive enhanced benefits, including mental health counseling, long-term diabetes management and cardiac rehab, prescription drugs, and home health visits as needed, as well as antismoking and anti-obesity classes. Those who do not sign up will get the federally required basic services, but they would be limited to four prescriptions a month and be denied other enhanced benefits.

So, the lucky 5% who are actually able to lose the weight they want and keep it off for 5 years or more get better care, and to hell with the other 95%! What I find ironic, though, is that if losing weight is supposed to cure or control diabetes, improve your heart health and maybe even reduce your depression, that why would you need the mental house counseling, long-term diabetes management and cardiac rehab? Should those pretty much fix themselves? And if losing weight increases your mobility, what do you need home health care visits? And on the flip side, given the intertwining of obesity and depression, denying someone mental health care because they can't lose weight seems counterproductive, as does denying them long-term diabetes management and cardiac rehab. If the recalcitrant fatties who can't lose weight don't do the state of West Virginia the favour of dropping dead, thus no longer needing *any* health care, won't denying them these services - in addition to limiting their access to medications just end up making them sicker - and thus even more expensive down the line?

Someday - and it'd be nice if it were sooner rather than later - society is going to need to truly comprehend that diets, diets-and-exercise, weight-loss surgery and other intentional weight loss methods simply do not work for the vast majority of people who are overweight or obese and that continually losing and regaining weight is much harder on the body than not losing weight at all. Once that happens, maybe - just maybe - people will stop trying to punish fat people for being fat. I doubt it'll happen in my lifetime (especially since it's supposedly going to be so much shorter,) but one can always dream...


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  • 1

    Wow, this was well thought-out! I didn't follow that conversation in CitizenSugar because the lack of tolerance and compassion in these self-centered, 'the world is as I see it and that's that' people, really gets me down. I don't want to share the world with them.

    I hope that people were at least civil and not offensive. Maybe this will open their eyes to another way to look at the topic.

    1 year 12 weeks ago Report Comment
  • 2

    I hope it open their eyes to looking at this topic in a better manner also, and many other intense topics as well.

    1 year 12 weeks ago Report Comment
  • 3

    I just spent the past couple hours reading each & every comment posted on the "Fatism is the new racism?" thread. I have such mixed feelings after digesting the contents...compassion for the MO, anger toward the misinformed, apathy for the completely clueless.

    Thank you for steering my eyes to an area of Sugar I might not normally have visited. Typically I would have spent those hours commenting on "what's hot/what's not" or "celeb gossip" which seems so trivial by comparison.

    {{hugs}}

    1 year 12 weeks ago Report Comment
  • 4

    Thanks, guys - I know it's long (a lot of my posts tend to be - I'm working on it, but brevity just isn't my strong suit - Laughing out loud) so I really appreciate the time you've taken to read it!

    MandyJoBo - there were a few comments there that I found a bit upsetting, but compared to conversations on similar topics I've been involved in elsewhere, this was exceptionally civil. It's one thing about TeamSugar that I've found that makes me really love this place - most of the discussions, even on difficult or "sensitive" topics, are civil enough that people can actually exchange ideas and actually learn from each other, rather than just one flame war after another or polarized groups yelling slogans at each other and not really paying any attention to the actual topic at hand.

    PinkNC - I hope so as well!

    Red Lady - {{Hugs back!}} I'm glad to know my post encouraged you to look at the other thread, thanks for telling me! I have a lot of fun with the celebrity/fashion/hot-or-not areas, too, but I like that the site does also have areas for talking about more serious things - it makes for a nice balance Smiling

    1 year 12 weeks ago Report Comment
  • 5

    Really interesting Thorswitch. I love when people post actual info and try to educate people with facts rather than intimidate through shame and public opinion.

    I cannot remember what else I was going to say - stupid migraine- but it was probably something in total agreement with what you posted. Oh I think it was something about the Public Police business and inspecting people's pantries and homes for "bad foods" - HELL NO! We don't even take those measures for illegal drugs in the US but because having a fat/overweight population is embarrassing to the US they'd inflict this sort of Gestapo tactic on people - NO. Bullets, knives and cats would fly as soon as they stepped on my doorstep. As far as the UK proposing such a response - I don't think it would really fly there in the short run or long run. The Brits are just as independent as we are and they will only tolerate so much government bullying and intrusion in their lives before they rebel.

    Maybe that's what I was going to say. Then again maybe it wasn't - I don't recall.

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  • 6

    Well, whether it was what you were going to say or not, it's a good point, and thanks for sharing it! Smiling

    Part of what the deal is with Britian is that they have national single-payer health care, run by the government, and because obesity is "so expensive," they feel they need to take steps to force fatties to lose weight so they won't bankrupt the country. That's really one of the biggest fears I have if we ever do get national health care coverage here in the US - it'll automatically give the government a justification they can use anytime they want to peek into someone's life if what they're looking for might be reflected on their health record.

    We already know that it's not unheard of for the government to assure everyone that certain records won't be used to gather information for a purpose other than the stated one, and then to turn around and use them exactly for what they said they weren't going to, so even if they swear that medical records won't be used to try and enforce "lifestyle changes," or that people who are take to the hospital with an illegal drug overdose won't be reported to law enforcement or anything else along those line, I have no reason to believe that they'll keep their word.

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  • 7

    Thanks for this additional information.
    Big people are the last "permissible" group to hate. On top of that, they blame the victims for their condition--which is not necessarily unhealthy.

    A dear friend many years ago had a father who was a surgeon. He had been at this particular hospital for some time, and was one of the more senior surgeons. A young, gung-ho fellow one day told him she should lose a few pounds. He was a tall and imposing figure, and just looked down at the youngster and told him: "Come the famine, I'll outlast you."

    That still makes me giggle today!

    1 year 11 weeks ago Report Comment

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